Show HN: Open-Source Colab Notebooks to Implement Advanced RAG Techniques

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93 points by hbamoria 16 hours ago

Hey HN fam,

We’ve seen developers spend a lot of time implementing advanced RAG techniques from scratch.

While these techniques are essential for improving performance, their implementation requires a lot of effort and testing!

To help with this process, our team (Athina AI) has released Open-Source Advanced RAG Cookbooks.

This is a collection of ready-to-run Google Colab notebooks featuring the most commonly implemented techniques.

Please show us some love by starring the repo if you find this useful!

Oras 11 hours ago

One of the challenges I have with RAG is excluding table of contents, headers/footers and appendices from PDFs.

Is there a tool/technique to achieve this? I’m aware that I can use LLMs to do so, or read all pages and find identical text (header/footer), but I want to keep the page number as part of the metadata to ensure better citation on retrieval.

  • prsdm 8 hours ago
    • Oras 8 hours ago

      Thank you, this is a mix of OCR and LLM, I was thinking if there might be a library to avoid using that.

      A better approach will be using Textract as it maintains the flow, such as if you have a table going across multiple pages.

      Btw, tesseract is not that good in getting accurate data from tables. Use it with caution especially in financial context.

      I have made an open source tool to show missing data from tesseract and easy ocr https://github.com/orasik/parsevision/

      • prsdm 4 hours ago

        Nice I really liked it!

  • jonathan-adly 6 hours ago

    I would check out vision models as a technique to go around OCR errors.

    ColPali is the standard implementation & SOTA. Much better than OCR. We maintain a ready to go retrieval API that implements this: https://github.com/tjmlabs/ColiVara

  • throwup238 6 hours ago

    You’ll need other heuristics for ToC and indices but headers/footers are easy to detect via n-gram deduplication. You’ll want to figure out some rolling logic to handle chapter changes though.

    • ellisv 3 hours ago

      Headers/footers are also positional.

jonathan-adly 6 hours ago

I would strongly advise against people learning based on LangChain.

It is abstraction hell, and will set you back thousands of engineers hours the moment you want to do something differently.

RAG is actually very simple thing to do; just too much VC money in the space & complexity merchants.

Best way to learn is outside of notebooks (the hard parts of RAG is all around the actual product), and use as little frameworks as possible.

My preferred stack is a FastAPI/numpy/redis. Simple as pie. You can swap redis for pgVector/Postgres when ready for the next complexity step.

  • ellisv 3 hours ago

    I'd like to hear more about this – both your reasoning against LangChain and suggestions for alternatives.

    My experience with LangChain has been a mixed bag. On the one hand it has been very easy to get up and running quickly. Following their examples actually works!

    Trying to go beyond the examples to mix and match concepts was a real challenge because of the abstractions. As with any young framework in a fast moving field the concepts and abstractions seem to be changing quickly, thus examples within the documentation show multiple ways to do something but it isn't clear which is the "right" way.

  • jackmpcollins 3 hours ago

    I'd be really interested to hear what abstractions you would find useful for RAG. I'm building magentic which is focused on structured outputs and streaming, but also enables RAG [0], though currently has no specific abstractions for it.

    [0] https://magentic.dev/examples/rag_github/

  • pchangr 6 hours ago

    Those were exactly my thoughts.. however I haven’t been able to find much material on how to implement this without relying on LangChain.. do you know of any beginners material I could use to fill my gaps?

krawczstef 13 hours ago

+1 for vanilla code without LangChain.

  • hbamoria 12 hours ago

    I believe you're looking for notebooks w/o Langchain. We plan to publish them in next few days :)

  • imworkingrn 11 hours ago

    whats wrong with langchain ?

    • ErikBjare 10 hours ago

      I haven't used it in a year, but my experience was it frequently broke in all sorts of ways. I have since avoided it like the plague.

      • imworkingrn 10 hours ago

        I hear you. Had the same experience. It's matured a lot since then though. Got back to it a few weeks ago and it feels surprisingly stable.

        • chompychop 7 hours ago

          Does it still have the "abstraction hell" issue when trying to work with it for custom, non out-of-the-box use cases?

        • prsdm 8 hours ago

          it's much more stable now.

          • sauwan 5 hours ago

            Does it still put you in dependency hell though, where you can't add new packages without causing tons of version conflicts?

            • efriis 15 minutes ago

              Howdy! Erick from LangChain here. If anyone is seeing version conflicts on particular packages, please let me know!

              These usually stem from overly strict constraints in the underlying sdks for the integrations, and in general we've been pretty successful asking for those constraints to be loosened. The main "problem" constraint we've seen in the past has been on httpx. Curious if you've seen others!

  • chompychop 12 hours ago

    Huh? All of their notebooks use LangChain.